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Big J

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Does anyone have any feedback on the Betavibe product from Ludeca? It looks like they have sunk a ton of money into a rework of the vibration line of products. I was curious if anyone has had their hands on it. Thank you...
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Doing some more digging it appears Ludeca is a partner selling Betavib products formerly known as Thor.
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Looks interesting stuff, since pruftecnik went they're own way they needed something. Didn't they change to easi laser aslo
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Not sure about the alignment stuff. The Betavib does look very interesting. I am looking forward to getting my hands on it to take a look.
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I've heard great things about it. I used a system similar before and loved it.

The collector is a Toughbook and there is a "pod" with it that send the TWF to the software. With this TWF you do what you want; spectrums, envellope etc. The only limit to the post-processing is the amount of lines and lenght of the TWF. You can cut part of the TWF and make a Spectrum out of it.

I still have Toughbooks from the early 2000s and they still work great. Much more suited than Ipads for industrial work imo.

I strongly considered going with them when I got my equipements but they were beginning at the time and the previous company (different owners but similar technology) had support problems. Today I wouldn't hesitate to go with them.




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@Beatnik, sounds like they are doing something similar to these guys,
MTS http://mtsvibes.com/vbox3
They are using a Toughpad also with Triax, Taking a high detail twf and post processing in the software.

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I read about that feature. I believe they call it time traveler. Post processing can be done on any data no matter the age, pretty cool. I also read that tech support is built into the software, so you can remote connect to an engineer through the application. The more I read, the better it sounds.
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If by some chance I was to go out on my own in the morning I would seriously consider the Vbox3 or the Betavib systems. 
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Time Traveler is great. It is essentially gives all of the benefits of saving data as time waveform instead of processed data. I've been supporting people with Bently Nevada data recently and I am clawing my hair out that all of the things I had taken for granted in my system are just not possible. Someone put in the wrong channel for keyphasor? Sorry, you can't change that because we don't save raw data and now all of your measurements are bogus.

Never Again.

I'm glad to see the industry is finally going in this direction. I would really like to get my hands on one of these too, especially because I don't understand what they actually use for their A2D/DAQ? Is that built into the toughpad?
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I will get it in my hands to look at later this month. I will let you know.
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Hello Big J,

Any representatives in Europe?

Thanks
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Here is the page to contact them. They answered me the same day.
http://www.betavib.com/Blog/?page_id=562
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Someone put in the wrong channel for keyphasor? Sorry, you can't change that because we don't save raw data and now all of your measurements are bogus.


Although I see reasons to save raw data and I've done it a lot, this one should never be a excuse. If someone fails to connect the right sensor to the right channel then it's the user's fault, reading the datasheet is a must before using any equipment like this. Anyway, Adre has a card that allows you to replay/post-process data, it is slow, but doable if you have the card.

Saving raw data poseses some challenges in certain applications, like how to store it and retrieve it efficiently. It is unfeasible in online systems for instance. 

I see raw data in a lot of new systems because of their design. Since they're using a daq usb card connected to a PC, saving the raw data and post-processing it in software is trivial and the obvious way to go. However, I doubt that it's always needed. What I see that it is a must in any software, is integrating a spectrum or waterfall in software, or calculating a bandpass.

Curran, i think that they use a cRIO for their online system so they may also use a NI card as the A2D/DAQ of the portable system, although in this link they used a DT9837 card: http://tecnologie.mecc.polimi.it/thesis/mechanical_performance_of_metal_tubes.pdf

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Did you ever get a play with the Beta Vib equipment after that Big J?
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We got a hands on demo with the area Ludeca rep. It is really impressive looking stuff. We ended up going with SPM however. We have been using it for 2 months now, and I am really pleased with it.
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