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MarkL

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I just seen Azima Dli got mopped up back in June by some Silicon Valley machine learning outfit I’ve never heard of (Symphony) must be size-able enough to acquire Azima?)
Anyone else aware of this?

I know Skf are going all machine learning crazy and moving from application engineers in the field developing vibration equipment and instead having iPhone nerds who wouldn’t know a centrifugal pump if they tripped over it, developing the next wave of common stuff.





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Yes that is the future, looks fun right? ABB is now a IT outfit and sold the electricity sort of......
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Yes Lot of compressor companies are also now selling capacity as a service, the actual machines are just an inconvenience required to compress the air!!!! and as a result, things like reliability are being thrown to the wayside when you would think the new business models 


Rolls Royce Jet engines? not anymore!!! you buy uninterrupted flying hours or ' jet engine-as-a-service '

I don't like the way this thing is going.
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Well I worked, trained a Jet engine service company for 25+ years that served SAS engines and they had a deal in the end where they got payment only when the engine produced eg. flew so that actually increased the interest in PDM and following engine data while flying as a minimum while start at max load the engine send data back to base as minimum 1xRPM for the shafts to keep them flying as long as allowed as it is time defined... So they eventually were sold to two the OEM's of the engines they refurbed P&W and GE and plant moved to Mexico...... It was a bit tricky with that setup when pilots went on strike or a Icelandic volcano grounds all air traffic. I am not sure if that was in the business plan from start. Also ground jet engines producing electricity have similar setups specific in the US. If you then discover a dramatic problem in the engines so the revenue stream stop totally the owner corp, that just bought the machines and machine production from the developer, producer/OEM ended up seriously in short end of the stick and nearly went belly up despite being a relatively huge corp. So that's business it goes up and down very much so in aero :-).
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Big companies are driven by uninformed minds. For some reason they know better.. There is a serious lack of expertise. I don't like the way it's going either. But maybe I am just to old now.
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I just seen Azima Dli got mopped up back in June by some Silicon Valley machine learning outfit I’ve never heard of (Symphony) must be size-able enough to acquire Azima?)
Anyone else aware of this?

I know Skf are going all machine learning crazy and moving from application engineers in the field developing vibration equipment and instead having iPhone nerds who wouldn’t know a centrifugal pump if they tripped over it, developing the next wave of common stuff.





I worked with DLI when it was called that. And I was not impressed. It came from US Navy, Never set foot in variable speed machines. I tried that with DLI, then sold to Azima, now it looks like sold again. 

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A friend who has one said the sales catch was the software (premium version) that only need 10 measurements to give a precise diagnosis... Is this remotely true?
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The automated diagnosis system needs an a lot of setup so I’ve heard.
When done right I think it will output fairly good results.

I presume this is what viberater is on about when it previously failed on variable speed stuff? The system is rules based I presume?
I know they sold a fluke Meter a few years ago with Azima auto diagnosis system in it. I sold two, didn’t do much with them at the time.
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It (DLI sytem) has never seen a paper machine either believe me, we tried that tooooo. 
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I know they sold a fluke Meter a few years ago with Azima auto diagnosis system in it. I sold two, didn’t do much with them at the time.


ohhh thats where the fluke 810 comes from we have it in plant and its a nice toy for pumps and fans with roller bearings, else it sees loseness or unblance everywhere
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Yep, didn't you recognize the "signature".... :-)
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Perhaps the new Elephant in the room!

Press Release

https://www.symphonyai.com/symphonyai-group-acquires-azima-global/

 

https://www.symphonyindustrial.ai/

 

Symphony Industrial AI

https://www.symphonyindustrial.ai/

 

https://symphonyazimaai.com/


Only 23 miles away.




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As an aside to this, many of you know of Ken Piety, one of the founders of CSI. When (or soon after) Emerson bought CSI, he went to Azima-DLI as a Vice President and did a lot of work on their automated diagnostics. He may have been the prime mover in CSI’s expert system, Nspecter. I was always happy that CSI didn’t push that as “the way” but rather , “a way.” In March 2018 he joined RDI (motion amplification), so don’t be surprised to see RDI add “expert” capabilities to MA.

Basically - and we all know this - the goal is to eliminate the need for human data collectors and analysts. But there will always be plenty of small plants who can’t afford the latest and greatest.

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I belive this AI is just hype, first theres going to be a decline in demand of "human experts" then those who survive 3-5 years will have those clients again
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Well, I built one "expert", 15 years ago and it can help newbies to dare to start but making them more complex is not easy. I used NspectrII quite a lot as maybe the only one? I also used the Russian version that Commtest tried and I think they sold like 2 licenses me and a Japanese....  
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