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I am running 5.61 on Windows 10 and it works, but the screen resolution is wonky on the main screen. The other screens look normal though.  Doesn't automatically recognize the 2140 so you have to disable and then enable it each time (but I didn't used to have to -- seems to be a recent thing).  I would welcome a version that supported Win 10, but I doubt I'll spend the money for it.

2130 ???  You guys still using a 2130?  Come on - get with the program!  [smile]


Hi Rusty: Actually MHM5.61 can work at winows 10 very well, I installed MHM5.61 at win10 more than one year, and it work with 2130 and 2140 is all fine.  the problem you said the screen resolution it just because of win10 high-DPI problem, it can be sloved use DPI-scaling overrides: Right click MHM.EXE at desktop and select Properties, Click the “Compatibility” tab and check the “Override high DPI scaling behavior” option. then MHM5.61 will OK at main screen.
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Maybe you also need to Turn Off USB Selective Suspend Setting in Power Options to prevent usb communication down:
1. Open your advanced power plan settings.

2. Expand open USB settings and USB selective suspend setting, select Disabled, and click/tap on OK. (see screenshot below)

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The photo I posted I googled from Internet becasue of my windows version is not English.



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When I first used a 2140 I thought. hey the buttons are not backlit.  This is something they dropped in the 2130 but even 2120 had great backlit buttons which were wonderful in poorly lit plant areas.

Just found out last week that the 2140's I have been using are Ex / Atex rated (intrinsically safe) and that function is removed from them because of that.  Normal 2140 does have backlit buttons.  Phewww. rgds
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The reason why the next / previous button reversal annoys my on 2140 is as follows;

The site where I use 2140 has - for every machine - 2 points set up which I won't even begin to describe. They rarely collect data on these points - only if they think something is amiss during data collection.

So once the routinely collected points are complete you have to either; press next point twice, or next machine once.

Because I drive the 2140 with my left hand, at the end of every machine I need to reach across to do this.  Really annoying.

Maybe the button reversal was decided by right handers.

So a firmware option to change this would be nice for me - a left hander.

Which leads me to the question.  If right handed which hand do you hit the enter button with? And vice versa for left handers. rgds
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I'm ambidextorous, but enter with the left, and place accel with the right.
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Hi Nok, same as me although I have the accel mounted on the end of a short painters pole so I don't have to bend over all the time. Gives quite a reach as well. And hands and arms stay away from steam pipes. Don't like the coily cable.  Always use straight cables 5 foot long.  Accidentally ordered a 6 foot and it is just a little too long but has proven ideal in a few instances - where 5 feet doesn't quite reach. Anyway fwiw. rgds
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Hi, Vibe, Just curious as to how the short pole works out? I have seen some older images online of guys in the US(from looks of the images) using short poles on route collection, does it not tend to have the sensor lean a bit to one side as you attach it and wait on the reading? also I am Microlog user but I hold analyzer in left hand with hand strap(I got a tool belt with a handily microlog sized pouch it fits in) I duly got rid of neck strap ages ago, I was scared shitless using it after heard about a guy who used to run routes in a site I monitor now near losing his arm with a Commtest Vb7 got caught in a shaft and near pulled him in after it.

I press the button with my left thumb and hold sensor with the right hand.
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Hi Mark, i'll start a new topic, just read the the start.
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The reason why the next / previous button reversal annoys my on 2140 is as follows;

The site where I use 2140 has - for every machine - 2 points set up which I won't even begin to describe. They rarely collect data on these points - only if they think something is amiss during data collection.

So once the routinely collected points are complete you have to either; press next point twice, or next machine once.

Because I drive the 2140 with my left hand, at the end of every machine I need to reach across to do this.  Really annoying.

Maybe the button reversal was decided by right handers.

So a firmware option to change this would be nice for me - a left hander.

Which leads me to the question.  If right handed which hand do you hit the enter button with? And vice versa for left handers. rgds


I work the same as you  and use the enter button with the left hand and pole in the right. I think that would have been because the 2110, 2115 and the 2120s all had the enter button on the left hand side. The 2130 was the first one with the 2 enter buttons.

Looks like I will be getting a 2140 soon so thanks for the tip on the switched buttons.
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Spoken like a true P&P guy! GOOD! Sinski, it will improve speed a bit. For which you will be grateful at dryers ft & rr.  Make my life easier too when you go to Deutschland.
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I was at least partially responsible for the change in next and previous. When we did a user group for CSI in 2011 (when they weren't developing a replacement for the 2130 ;-)) we discussed the location of the buttons for a long time and I wanted the change so that when you are physically situated with one hand operating the dc and one hand mounting the accel you wouldn't have to switch hands.

It makes sense to me, but not $30,000 worth of sense.

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I think sometimes we as users -- especially independents spending our own $ -- forget that these companies exist for one reason: to make money.  If they don't make money - or enough money - they will cease to exist, and then where will we be?  Part of the problem is that the CSI boxes are very dependable, built like a tank, and never really "wear out" and need replacement.  So the very strength of the box is a weakness in their business model.

We pay $25K for a work truck, knowing we'll need to replace it in 10 years.  Yet we expect to use a $25K vibration analyzer forever?



If after 5 years, my truck company stop making parts and support my otherwise still be very good truck i'll be really mad. CSI were still selling the 2130 5 years ago without telling people they'd be obsolete 5 years later. It's what happened in the other part of my company.

There is many innovations that could have been include in the 2140 to make it more attractive to buyers: Wireless accelerometers, integrated camera/pyrometer etc.

They could also make money with a new analysis program, MHM is very old.


Glad to read that 5.61 actually work on Windows 10 though, i'll pass the word.

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Gotta be careful with a built in camera, some sites don't allow cameras. rgds
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If after 5 years, my truck company stop making parts and support my otherwise still be very good truck i'll be really mad. CSI were still selling the 2130 5 years ago without telling people they'd be obsolete 5 years later. It's what happened in the other part of my company.

There is many innovations that could have been include in the 2140 to make it more attractive to buyers: Wireless accelerometers, integrated camera/pyrometer etc.

They could also make money with a new analysis program, MHM is very old.


Glad to read that 5.61 actually work on Windows 10 though, i'll pass the word.



This happens with lots of products in the marketplace though.

It reminds me of what happened with the Thermomix (very expensive kitchen appliance) here in Australia. They were selling the old model, at full price, right up to the point they released a new model. No one had any idea that a new model was coming out, even the sales people. It caused a big uproar here especially with people who had bought a new one a few weeks within release of a new model as they would have waited until then if they knew.

At least with the 2130s and even the 2120s when the 2130 was released they are still covered with maintenance agreements for awhile after the new model is released. Also helps that they are quite a tough unit and will last a long time.

MHM is old and it is being replaced in the near future I believe as a whole new platform so they are working on that.
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Sometimes refining and refining and refining is better than building new.

I am not totally sure of this but in 2120 you used to be able to clear data for an entire machine. For example if you collected data and got the a & B mixed up. Now you have to clear a point at a time.  Step backwards. I know... small detail but it is the accumulated number of small details that really make a difference.
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"I am not totally sure of this but in 2120 you used to be able to clear data for an entire machine. For example if you collected data and got the a & B mixed up. Now you have to clear a point at a time."

I never knew how but that could mean just that I didn't know how.
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