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ukvibes

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Anybody know if it is even possible to move data from one point to different machine even if the point is the same?

Eg Motor1 M1P move to Motor2 M1P

Not something I normally entertain but I was told the wrong machine name by an op and we could'nt go back and retake measurment on same day. Wondered if I could move the data to the correct machine which has the same point name.

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...I know it is not the same but I can do it in Skf aptitude.. Have had to do it once or twice. The measurement set up parameters must be the same in that case, the point name isn't really an issue. 
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Yes, it can be done.  I've done it before.  But it is pretty difficult.  The 2 points (and I think the machines) have to be identical in every respect.  I can't remember how it's done exactly, but if I get some time I'll look at it this weekend.  If I figure it out, I'll make a procedure or a screenshot video of it.


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Hi ukvibes.

Rusty is spot on, the machine points have to be 100% identical including the same AP AL set and same naming convention.

Transfering data from a machine in one area of a database to the identical machine in another area of the same database

Select Database Utility
Select Move/Copy.
Open Database by clicking on “+” sign.
Open Area List by clicking on “+” sign.
Open areas required by clicking on “+” sign.
Highlight machine to be copied (in source area).
Drag machine to target area “Equipment List” by holding down left mouse button.
When highlighted machine is positioned over target area “Equipment List” release left mouse button.
Options Page will appear. Adjust options as set out below.

Structure Options
Equipment         Change New to Merge
Point                 Change New to Merge

Data Options
Check all unchecked windows with ticks
Change “Start” & “End” dates to include date for data to be transferred including:
Transfer Gross Scan Data
Transfer Trend Data
Transfer Spectral Data
Transfer Waveform Data

Statistics Option
Change from “Ignore” to “Redo/New”

Set Options
Leave “re-number” as is

External File Options
Clear all ticks

Press “OK”
Data copy will take place and “Pre-viewer” page will appear
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Forgot to say make sure you copy your rbm file before you do anything in database utility, its easy to screw things up. And its always good to have a back up.
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If you are indeed using CSI then as Rusty points out it is extremely difficult.  It has been a long time since I have done that and try to stay away unless I really, really have to. From memory. you would copy the entire machine with the past date including the (latest I presume which you accidentally collected at wrong point) into another area / machine.  Then delete all data which you are interested in leaving only the data you want to move.  Delete the data you are interested in from the original machine point. Then get to work on changing ALL settings of the machine point with data of interest (to be copied) to be PRECISELY the same as the target where you want it to go.  This means ALL settings, AP sets should be the same, AL sets the same, under edit point all the same - for all settings on each tab. Change point name.  And I think Rusty is correct, machine name as well.  Only when ALL is identical it will work.

The alarm bell of missing something is when you try to copy and somehow it creates a new point under the target machine.  Typically if you have a motor pump set for example that have 2 side by side with one a spare for the other, they will have normally been copied from the first set up.  That is your best chance. If the machine you put the data if interest in is different configuration to where you want the data to go then another level of difficulty comes in.

That is the best I can do from my memory of quite a while ago.  Hope that helps.  Rusty might correct or add some things, or anyone else for that matter. Let us know how you go.  And most importantly are you using CSI.......   ohhhh yes, it is listed under the CSI area. So this is relevant at least.  I should have realised that before I started.
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you just copy and paste the data.......oh wait........you aren't using Emonitor!
Sorry, Danny. Just can't help myself sometimes.😜
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Im going to bookmark this post.

my machines are identical, it worked flawless
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And that is the key.  In CSI if there is only a minute difference in setup of machine or AP sets or alarm sets there will be trouble. So as is often the case machine set a b c  will be copies of a. You can copy it to another database, change a to  b or whatever and then copy back. No problem.
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Originally Posted by Ron Brook
you just copy and paste the data.......oh wait........you aren't using Emonitor! Sorry, Danny. Just can't help myself sometimes.😜


Ron - I was thinking the same thing.  Very easy to do in the Emonitor software.
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If you know what you are doing then it is easy in CSI. But it can be tricky. You don't have to change to emonitor.
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