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Hello all,
I switched jobs a few months ago and I am now learning to use the Falcon by OneProd. I come from the CSI 2130. Anybody have experience with the Falcon?

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Yes we use it with the wifi sensor 3-axis.
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Hi Oli,

Can the Falcon handle MPM input like you would do with CSI on a paper machine?? If so, is there a global speed set on the Falcon? rgds
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Pretty much no, those guys never saw a papermachine.
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Thought so,

I asked the distributor here at a conference and they didn't know what I was talking about.  Thanks Oli. rgds

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Sledder, do you work on a paper machine?


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Mark,
No, I am in the mining industry.

Oli,
Do you feel the triaxial sensors gives you good measurements?

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Yes it works good, giving good data but the membrane button on it is not papermchine or wet safe, we are in to our 3rd sensor and have protected the last one more.
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Mark,
No, I am in the mining industry.

Oli,
Do you feel the triaxial sensors gives you good measurements?

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Ah, so global speed isn't an issue then, see not everyone needs CSI.

I was seriously thinking of a Oneprod falcon a few years ago when I dabbled with going solo but circumstances changed at the time and I left the status quo as it was.

regarding Triaxial, Does it use a demodulated acceleration like enveloped acc or peakvue for bearings Olov? I reckon you'd only need that to be taken on one axis and the other two would be perfectly fine for vertical and axial on route stuff.




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Yes it has demod/env it has it's own lo speed brg process but it takes time so we only used it on Yankee's and then on-line and it is proven to work IRL on a YB brg that failed real quick.
All 3 directions must be setup the same and are collected in sync. It takes 13 sec to get 1 brg data in 3.axis in the setup I need. It can be shorter if you are not that prickly as I am.
We use it on a papermill where we need to compete on price/time to keep the work, we are using other's for other work but this is currently the fastest way we have to produce decent data. We are working on our own system to be about as fast, I maybe don't like it to be faster to get reasonable data from 6-700RPM machines with reasonable data but lower cost. We will license existing PC software.


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After a few months of working with it, I'm still not completely sold on how this things performs. Building routes with it is a dream, very easy and quick... Setting up measurement parameters is sort of limiting in my opinion. Going through data is really clunky, you can't tab through it like CSI. I'm just so used to the CSI way of doing things and I am trying to mirror that with the falcon and not having the best luck.. I guess I will have to conform..[crazy]

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If you set alarms to something one way or another, there are several and look at a machine at a time in the "spreadsheet" mode it is about, similar to the bar-graph overview plot in MT I used before.

Squares that are red or yellow are in allarm, press the square and you get the trend, click the FFT in box down the lower edge and you get the FFT or TWF if you click that.
Select another time in database box to the right, press "+" down right to add plots in same diagram if you like to compare.
A bit different yes but you can do postprocess like in no other system, Cepstrum, FFT from TWF and a lot of other things you rarely use.
Unless you try to only use the brand new fancy web interface? It is useless, never got used to that it is a management tool in my view to hide the reality.


Report is useless unless customer want to file a large file but that is quite normal in all systems I used lately part from the original Commtest in my view.
In MT we used to deliver a full box of paper for a std. papermachine split in the "good" and "bad" sections.
I am still working on Adash to figure it out in that way. It may be possible to use.


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Thanks for the help OLi
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YAW I will try to help so just ask and I will try to find out. We even have a setup for our own L value Brg condition as you can set parameters to be calculated from almost anything.
OEM brg condition is some mix of crest factor and the other one, it does trend marginally better than each of them separately and it goes red when it is bad so it is another confirming param.

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I'm supposed to be getting a demo on ONEPROD Falcon next week.  I see there is also a unit called the ONEPROD Hawk, which appears to be a simpler/lower end machine?   What's the major differences between the Falcon and the Hawk?
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